Can you talk about the importance of the City of Manchester and the role it plays in your creative process?
I grew up in Bolton, but I am based in Manchester. I have always spent a lot of time in Manchester, really. There’s this amazing hub of underground music — you have Hidden, The White Hotel or Warehouse Project. There’s nowhere else in the UK like Warehouse Project, even in London. Manchester has such an amazing music history, with things like acid house or the Haçienda — clubs or movements that are a distant memory now. I have always been proud of Manchester having this amazing culture. In terms of Manchester-based garage DJs, there was Zed Bias who I drew a lot of inspiration from — he really cut through in the London scene. Garage is super, super London — well, maybe not so much now — as that’s where it originated. To have one Manchester artist cut through was great, so it inspired me to be the next generation of that. Ultimately, I am very proud to be Northern.
At the beginning, I was making like dark UK garage which was influenced by the whole grittiness of Manchester — the dark grey aesthetic inherent to the city. The speed garage stuff is very Northern, too, it had a massive thing in Sheffield. There’s a level of playfulness and cheekiness in the Northern part of the country, people tend to go much harder than down South. I was very nervous about playing speed garage and donk in London, but I was actually surprised to see the reception to it. When I was younger, the it guys were donk MCs. There used to be a club called J2 in Bolton, and on one of the floors it was donk all night. Looking back, I wonder where they got all their tunes from. I buy a lot of records and it’s hard to dig for donk.
You also co-founded your own record label, ATW, alongside Copenhagen’s Main Phase. For those that don’t know, how did this start out and what does ATW represent?
We were both making different tunes back in the day, sort of lo-fi stuff, with Adam producing under a different name. Me and Adam had been talking for years, and he invited me to play in Copenhagen — he’s got a club night in a place called Baggen. When I got there, I was kind of making 4x4 and some garage, and we discussed how we would like to transition into that. I remember doing a radio show and he was playing old garage records he was collecting. We played that club night together and there was a different energy. Me and Adam are so similar in terms of DJing, as well as collecting records. All of my secret weapons are his tunes, and he plays a lot of my records. When we play back-to-back, we know what tunes each other are going to bounce from. After lockdown hit, I remember saying to Adam “look, why don’t we start a label together? We can create some tunes and that way we’ll always have something to chat about together”.
The first ATW release was more sort of two-step garage, something we were on for years. Two-step hits so hard, especially played in a proper sound system — you just can’t beat it. The second record that we created, which came out a couple of months ago, was when we were doing our 4x4 and speed garage thing. That’s some of our best work. The process just worked — there was no second guessing, it was both of us in a room just knowing what we both wanted and the context of it. We want ATW to be a representation of the what the new school genre is. Going forward, we just want to build a label that people look back on in the future when they’re looking for something that’s timeless.